Throwaway theta day.
No one trading this mess.
Job applications being submitted by traders for walmart and Sam’s club.
We ended the DT4$2 course last week, but have organized the slack room for those who want to continue studying together. Zoom was open for those who wanted to see my charts and interact.
Trading is a lonely business, and it helps to have a few kindred spirits to share the journey.
Hard to get enthusiastic about this listless market. Options expiration week, and premiums are melting.
09:28:51 From Dennis Parmelee : good morning
09:28:56 From Simon : Thanks Dennis. Hi all
09:29:26 From Renato : thanks E
09:29:30 From Renato : GA Simon
09:29:59 From Zeek Snodgrass : if this theta burn week, expect even smaller range for the week
09:30:37 From Mike : yep lonely biz
09:31:59 From Zeek Snodgrass : 53.75-50 is half gap
09:32:22 From Zeek Snodgrass : lwm is xxx
09:33:13 From Zeek Snodgrass : I am here till 11:30 then depends
09:33:24 From Zeek Snodgrass : if we have 3 pt range for first 2 hr, dfd
09:33:47 From Zeek Snodgrass : this is the calm before the war
09:34:52 From Zeek Snodgrass : It can be military or political or both
09:35:08 From Zeek Snodgrass : article on zero hedge about bots never selling
09:35:48 From Dennis Parmelee : look for 59.25 as first key resistance
09:35:52 From Dennis Parmelee : xxxx
09:36:25 From Zeek Snodgrass : no economic news rest of day
09:36:39 From Zeek Snodgrass : watch first hour volume
09:37:12 From Zeek Snodgrass : thinking if we get xxxx that we can go back and fill 49.5 gap
09:37:29 From Zeek Snodgrass : thinking xxx for expiration theta burn
09:37:50 From Mike : yep agree
09:47:28 From Dennis Parmelee : back in a bit
09:58:19 From Zeek Snodgrass : 56.5 is rth demon
10:01:55 From Zeek Snodgrass : NQ about to make more new highs
10:02:33 From Zeek Snodgrass : no reward for shorting and holding
10:02:36 From Zeek Snodgrass : scalping okay
10:02:57 From Zeek Snodgrass : at end of first hr we can get a pb on profit taking
10:03:23 From Zeek Snodgrass : watch for Sears to file bankruptcy soon
10:03:36 From Zeek Snodgrass : it will have a domino effect on retail industry
10:03:46 From Zeek Snodgrass : lack of credit will doom most of the retailers
10:04:01 From Zeek Snodgrass : Sam Zell said to sell and he is very good
10:08:39 From Zeek Snodgrass : I do think we can break 52 today
10:08:54 From Zeek Snodgrass : upside limited, downside limited, rth range 3.25
10:09:34 From Zeek Snodgrass : Nq did not make a new high
10:10:05 From Zeek Snodgrass : 6111 is rth open
10:10:25 From Zeek Snodgrass : 09.5 rth low
10:11:01 From Zeek Snodgrass : AAPL up on upgrade
10:11:11 From Zeek Snodgrass : I think their reasoning is wrong
10:11:23 From Zeek Snodgrass : AAPL desperately news new innovative products
10:11:29 From Zeek Snodgrass : not a new version of an old idea
10:11:40 From Zeek Snodgrass : they are becoming a commodity company
10:12:00 From Zeek Snodgrass : I like and use a lot of AAPL prodcuts
10:12:11 From Zeek Snodgrass : but nothing excites me
10:12:22 From CS : same here
10:12:33 From Zeek Snodgrass : AAPL watch is not interesting
10:12:56 From CS : the battery is supposed to suck
10:13:00 From Zeek Snodgrass : Tim Cook will be fired in next 2-3 yearss
10:13:44 From Zeek Snodgrass : only question: Are the innovators and engineers capable of delivery innovative products still at AAPL?
10:13:56 From Zeek Snodgrass : I don’t know the answer
10:15:03 From Mike : y much bigger struggle for them to lead the way they have in the past i think
10:15:33 From Zeek Snodgrass : Cook is a manufacturing wizard, not an innovator
10:15:50 From Zeek Snodgrass : He also may venture into the political which is bad for the company
10:16:01 From Zeek Snodgrass : no need to alienate any customers
10:16:10 From Mike : good pt i can see that happening too
10:17:14 From Zeek Snodgrass : big short squeeze in copper today
10:17:22 From Zeek Snodgrass : angle broken rth
10:18:10 From Zeek Snodgrass : angel
10:18:22 From Zeek Snodgrass : nnq broke rth low too
10:18:52 From Zeek Snodgrass : test globex rain line
10:19:05 From Zeek Snodgrass : so normal to bounce and then we see where if goes
10:21:19 From Zeek Snodgrass : 2 ticks left on gap
10:21:41 From Renato : Nice call, Zeek.
10:22:13 From Zeek Snodgrass : 52 low hit
10:24:25 From Zeek Snodgrass : this is second entry for longs
10:24:44 From Zeek Snodgrass : we go back to 52, expect it travel lower 50.25 Fri rth low
10:26:40 From Zeek Snodgrass : we came a bit more than 5 pts back from 57.75 high
10:26:49 From Zeek Snodgrass : now is the battle for control
10:26:58 From Zeek Snodgrass : for aout next 15 minutes
10:27:06 From Zeek Snodgrass : 54.75 pg
10:33:29 From Zeek Snodgrass : bears xx
10:33:36 From Zeek Snodgrass : see if they can follow through
10:34:06 From Zeek Snodgrass : no rth angel
10:36:29 From Zeek Snodgrass : NFLX earnings tonight
10:36:41 From Zeek Snodgrass : NQ fate riding on great numbers
10:44:39 From Simon : All the AAPL gaps above filled now. Only gaps remaining are below.
11:13:38 From Zeek Snodgrass : 2 tries to break 52
11:14:01 From Zeek Snodgrass : neutral day os far with 6 pt range
11:14:15 From Zeek Snodgrass : xxx still teh working idea
11:14:22 From Mike : hard to believe mid october
11:14:24 From Zeek Snodgrass : volume is ultra dreadful today
11:14:38 From Mike : y
11:16:27 From Mike : after netflix today the other three darlings aren’t until next week
11:21:35 From Zeek Snodgrass : AAPL excuses will be interesting
11:22:00 From Zeek Snodgrass : AMZN does no tmake money if you include interst expense on their growing debt
11:22:09 From Zeek Snodgrass : FB is a fad
11:23:01 From Mike : FB will have trouble with demographics too unless they completely change
11:35:30 From Dennis Parmelee : back for a few
11:35:40 From Dennis Parmelee : beautiful back and fill
11:35:55 From Dennis Parmelee : xxxx
11:36:06 From Dennis Parmelee : back to rain on 5
11:36:15 From Dennis Parmelee : back to rain on 15
11:36:42 From Dennis Parmelee : awful range
11:37:16 From Dennis Parmelee : xxx
11:37:20 From Dennis Parmelee : xxxx
11:37:28 From Dennis Parmelee : xxxx
11:38:03 From Dennis Parmelee : 55.5 friday’s high is the key
11:46:17 From Mike : have to run out for a bit, back later
11:48:04 From Dennis Parmelee : ok mike
11:48:10 From Dennis Parmelee : primary trade done
11:48:18 From Dennis Parmelee : neutral
11:51:23 From Zeek Snodgrass : looks like we may be stuck in the mud rest of the day withoout news
11:55:04 From Zeek Snodgrass : lunch bbl
11:55:10 From Dennis Parmelee : give back has been non-existent
11:59:07 From Dennis Parmelee : angel 52.75 demon 56.5
11:59:24 From Dennis Parmelee : xxx
11:59:44 From Dennis Parmelee : reflecting importance of dbl bottom
11:59:47 From Dennis Parmelee : 52
12:00:02 From Dennis Parmelee : friday late dbl 50
12:00:15 From Dennis Parmelee : bbl
12:16:23 From Dennis Parmelee : looks like 51/50 test
12:19:36 From Dennis Parmelee : shakeout both sides of overnihgt range
12:26:48 From Dennis Parmelee : we know we are in trouble when we break both ends of overnight range, back and fill, and its lunchtime with less than 7 point range for day
13:55:22 From Dennis Parmelee : 54.25 day’s middle
13:55:29 From Dennis Parmelee : yuk
13:56:03 From Dennis Parmelee : xxx
13:56:11 From Dennis Parmelee : xxxxx
13:56:56 From Dennis Parmelee : risk 1 make 1.5
14:20:41 From Zeek Snodgrass : dfd
14:23:41 From Mike : back but good grief
14:23:47 From Mike : i thought summer was over
14:25:38 From Mike : probably done too for the day
14:25:40 From Dennis Parmelee : death of a trader
14:25:48 From Dennis Parmelee : overtrading
14:26:05 From Dennis Parmelee : theta burn
14:26:16 From Dennis Parmelee : no interest in buying or selling
14:26:26 From Dennis Parmelee : do nothing
14:26:28 From Renato : One good trade is all we need… watching…
14:39:56 From Dennis Parmelee : too scattered here today
14:41:56 From Renato : true
14:44:32 From Mike : yep
14:44:40 From Mike : 5.5 pt IB and we’re right in the middle of it
14:47:12 From Dennis Parmelee : xxx
14:47:24 From Dennis Parmelee : 90 suport 20 resistance
14:50:07 From Dennis Parmelee : dont over trade guys
14:50:09 From Mike : catch you all later
14:50:22 From Mike : taking off now ty
14:50:33 From Mike : y ill check the last 30 or so
14:50:33 From Renato : later Mike
14:50:34 From Dennis Parmelee : bye
14:50:42 From Dennis Parmelee : ok
14:51:00 From Dennis Parmelee : market is bearish nunder 55.5
14:51:06 From Dennis Parmelee : bullish above 52
14:58:55 From Dennis Parmelee : this is not trading
14:59:04 From Dennis Parmelee : they have killed the market
14:59:19 From Dennis Parmelee : go get a job
14:59:23 From Renato : lol
14:59:36 From Dennis Parmelee : lol
15:00:04 From Renato : AMZN is hiring.
15:02:28 From Dennis Parmelee : yeah if u are a drone
15:02:59 From Dennis Parmelee : one more retest of 5.5 today maybe
15:03:09 From Dennis Parmelee : xxxxx
15:03:22 From Dennis Parmelee : xxxx
15:03:28 From Dennis Parmelee : typo
15:03:38 From Dennis Parmelee : even my fingers are not working
15:04:55 From Renato : I think I’m dftd.
15:04:59 From Renato : watching…
15:06:16 From Dennis Parmelee : i may take look after 330
15:06:22 From Dennis Parmelee : not interested
15:06:25 From Dennis Parmelee : back later
15:06:36 From Dennis Parmelee : night to all in case u bolt
15:19:27 From Evan’s iPhone : thanks for everything again E, as always makes these days better
15:44:34 From CS : thanks everyone- cya laters!
15:45:43 From Renato : GN ALL
15:45:50 From Renato : Thank you!
16:04:33 From Dennis Parmelee : u bet
16:09:44 From Dennis Parmelee : https://content.screencast.com/users/EMWS/folders/Jing/media/913a30f6-ff74-4458-8f9c-3de500d5eb1d/2017-10-16_1608.png
#ES_F snail mail ow.ly/5jRA30fU6Pu Next significant resistance remains 2563.75 to 2566.75 #EMWS step by step
we know we are in trouble when we break both ends of overnight range, back and fill, and its lunchtime with less than 7 point range for day
option expiration and theta burn. Friday’s 55.5 high still the key, so is 50 to 47 agg support
03:03 PM one more retest of 55.5 today maybe DT4$2 ow.ly/vxJ830fUXNT #ES_F
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—– Today October 16th, 2017 —–
Zeek Snodgrass [8:16 AM] gm
[8:17] 53 angel, 55.75 demon
[8:17] another small range low volume globex
[8:17] daily volume is still dropping lower
[8:17] it is a significant warning about declining market liquidity
[8:18] bots will be one way chasers on any significant event
[8:19] we have 1 pt marginal HH
[8:20] expiration week, odds are narrow range and low volumes
[8:20] thinking xxxx
[8:20] last week’s range was 16 pts
[8:21] US political battles heating up
[8:21] we need debt ceiling extension around Dec 15
[8:21] not apeep about this
[8:21] Central Banks fixing market and asset prices
[8:22] Fed has no clue and will make a fatal policy mistake
[8:22] which is the same thing that happened in 1987
[8:24] xxx most done
[8:24] then have xxx
[8:24] 66-67 is strong resistance being the xxx
Mike M [8:24 AM] gm
Renato Santos [8:26 AM] GM
Mike M [8:29 AM] ty zeek
[8:29] hi rena
evan [8:31 AM] gm all
[8:32] ty zeek
Mike M [8:34 AM] 50.75-49 watching below
[8:34] 4950 open gap from thursday
eminiwizard[8:43 AM]
Screencast.com EMWS
2017-10-16_0835
[8:43] gm and nice to see you guys here
[8:44] Next significant resistance remains 2563.75 to 2566.75
[8:45] i will be in and out
[8:45] lots of things to do
[8:46] but thinking xxxx
Mike M [8:46 AM] gm dennis and thanks
eminiwizard [8:47 AM] should get xx as major xxx right now
[8:48] hi mike
[8:50] https://content.screencast.com/users/EMWS/folders/Jing/media/a953bed1-368a-4dc2-84d7-56a185e35b5b/2017-10-16_0849.png 15 globex
[8:51] need a down day soon
[8:53] 62.5 i think is target now from xxx
[8:53] if it becomes xxxxxx
[8:55] https://content.screencast.com/users/EMWS/folders/Jing/media/83c09713-467e-419a-841c-0e1b64ef1a14/2017-10-16_0855.png
[8:55] xxxxxx
[8:56] that one is sanitized
[8:56] https://content.screencast.com/users/EMWS/folders/Jing/media/fe12daca-504c-4fba-804c-6e3dc869dd33/2017-10-16_0856.png
[8:57] this is the measure
Mike M [8:57 AM] nice ty
eminiwizard
[8:57 AM] so xxxxxxx
[8:57] and 51.5 = 52 idea then mikes 50
[8:57] the double from friday
Renato Santos [9:00 AM] thanks E.
[9:00] and Zeek
Zeek Snodgrass [9:19 AM] zoom?
eminiwizard [9:20 AM] i can put it on for u hang on
Zeek Snodgrass [9:21 AM] thank you
eminiwizard[9:22 AM] https://zoom.us/j/203xxxx
eminiwizard [4:09 PM]
https://content.screencast.com/users/EMWS/folders/Jing/media/913a30f6-ff74-4458-8f9c-3de500d5eb1d/2017-10-16_1608.png (44kB)xxx
[4:10] 03:03 PM one more retest of 55.5 today maybe DT4$2
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